am going to comment on two themes running through your last two 
questions and the comments made to them. One is about a wife “seizing 
control and related is the notion of whether you are ready to submit 
completely to her authority. My experience ( with two different women) 
is that you don’t know if you are ready until she draws that line in the
 sand and demands you accept discipline. She has to seize control and 
then you find out. What took time in both my relationships was that my 
disciplinarians sensed I was ambivalent and so they hesitated to take 
that final step. I think it is hard in our culture for many women to 
demand obedience and you really have to show you are ready to submit to 
their authority. With my girlfriend it never really happened but my wife
 pretty early in our relationship insisted I accept a spanking for 
something I felt was unfair (at the time). That spanking happened and I 
realized that emotionally I could not stop her even though physically I 
could have. That was a defining moment for us when I realized she would 
spank when she decided and I couldn’t stop it. I think something like 
that has to happen in every DD relationship if it is to become real. As 
much as we think we want discipline our women have to seize and use 
their authority before it all clicks. Because we can’t discipline 
ourselves is why we ask our wives or girlfriends to do it for us. The 
other issue is being made to orgasm before punishment. Any male who has 
been punished this way would probably do almost anything to avoid 
another. It probably is the purest kind of adult punishment and I doubt 
there is a male who is not reduced to tears spanked that way.  I do 
think willingness to accept this is an acid test for being ready to 
submit completely. Both women I have been involved with demanded 
authority to use this to enhance punishment rather than to humiliate. My
 girlfriend told me she felt it a limit on her authority until I agreed 
to do it but after I did a couple of times she never used it again. My 
wife also saw it as a control issue but she does actually use it to 
punish me for one particular misbehavior. It just my opinion but if you 
are looking for a way to show your wife she is in charge offer to take 
your next spanking after orgasm. Believe me she will understand what you
 are offering and after it’s over you will have no doubt who is in 
charge.
Alan
Alan
